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Dale Yu:  Fantasy Football and Gaming

So, it’s the best time of year again (for me).  First, the annual anticipation of Essen starts around now.  In the past, the anticipation would be over learning about the new games.  In the past few years, as I’ve been able to go to Essen myself, the anticipation has been over the overseas travel and figuring out how to afford the dang trip!  I haven’t even really started my gaming research in earnest, though the BGN Eseen Preview is starting to really fill up with entries that I’ll need to review shortly.  But, to be honest, Essen is still awhile in the future – I don’t have to leave for another 23 days!  The other main focus of this season is the return of football season!  In all honesty, the main focus of the fall for me is football – and I’m talking about American Football here not soccer!

I pretty much love all things football, and I can easily admit that I’ve been interested in football for much longer than I’ve been interested in gaming.  The beautiful thing about football is that it’s something that can be all-encompassing (very similar to gaming in my life).  During this time of year, I can indulge myself in football for at least 5 days each week as I’m interested in all levels of the sport (highschool, college, and professional). 

For me, the football week starts on Thursdays.  Generally, on Thursday nights, I can catch at least one college football game on TV.  Friday nights are traditionally the nights for high school football.  I am a season ticket holder to my high school’s football games, and my family often enjoys going to the games together.  Saturdays are the big college football day – from noon to midnight – you will generally find me on the couch watching a college football game, though a few times a year I’ll go see a game in person.  My wife went to Notre Dame, so needless to say, she’s a big football and Fighting Irish fan.  I went to the traditional football powerhouse also known as Vanderbilt… who I’m proud to say are finally ranked again (first time since 1984).  This week also probably represents the only week in my life that I’ll ever be able to laugh at my wife and tell her that my team is ranked and hers isn’t.  (For the record, I just hope that Vanderbilt doesn’t lose to Auburn by more than 21 points).

Sundays are the focus of the weekend though as it is the main day for the professionals of the National Football League to play.  While there is some debate whether my local team (the Cincinnati Bengals) should be referred to as professional – but it does appear that they are being paid, so “professional” they must be.  Monday night completes the NFL week with Monday Night Football.

Thus, there are only two short days – Tuesday and Wednesday – that I have to live through to get to the start of the next football week, right?  WRONG!  As some of you know, my other main passion in the fall is Fantasy Football.  It helps me make it through those two long long days without any football to watch!

So why do I like Fantasy Football?  It’s the perfect meshing of my favorite two hobbies – football and gaming.  For those of you not familiar with Fantasy Football, let me explain it briefly.  Fantasy Football is a game where each player constructs a team which is comprised of real-life NFL football players.  Then, each week, the real-life statistics of those football players are converted into points.  There are a number of different scoring systems and ways to match up you fantasy football teams, but in the end, you generally need to score more points than your opponents to win. The success or failure of your fantasy football team is thus directly dependent on the on-the-field success of the players you have chosen to be on your team.  So… each weekend while I’m watching the NFL games on TV, I’m not only concerned about the fate of my hapless Bengals, but I’m also watching the games to see if my Fantasy Football players are performing well (or if my Fantasy Football opponents are doing poorly).

So, what’s the attraction?  First, and foremost, it’s a game based on one of my favorite things!  Second, it helps make all the games much more interesting.  Normally, I might not really care about say… a Seattle Seahawks/Kansas City Chiefs game – but if some of the players in that game are featured in my Fantasy game, the game suddenly becomes interesting to me.  Additionally, games with lopsided results (whose outcomes are no longer in question) which would normally be dull suddenly become exciting again as I can still be interested in seeing which players score touchdowns or make interceptions. 

Finally, it’s a game!  Like most of you (and I’m making an assumption that many of you are like me), I love playing games – no matter what the theme.  Heck, I’ve enjoyed games about the Cold War, farming in the 1700s, the German postal system, railroads, Rome, pirates, Roman Pirates, and a thousand other things.  For me, the theme isn’t the important thing – it’s whether the system of the game interests me or not.

Fantasy Football presents the gamer with a number of different aspects to enjoy.  First, there is a long-term aspect that we don’t normally experience in our Eurogames.  Let’s face it, in the current gaming world, 2 hours is a long game!  A typical Fantasy Football season lasts over 16 or 17 weeks.  And, if you’re in a dynasty league (where you keep some or all of your players from year to year), the “game” can continue on over multiple years!  While I have issues with longer games (think a long Descent scenario or a game of 7 Ages) as I often lose concentration midway through the game, I find that I stay interested in Fantasy Football throughout an entire season.  I think the main reason for this is that you don’t need to be constantly thinking about Fantasy Football – as little as 20 minutes a week can keep you in the game – though it’s just as easy to spend 4 or 5 hours a week working on your team.  Also similar to Descent, you can get a different feel for the game whether you play over a single season (as in a scenario) versus a dynasty (as in a campaign).

Second, there is an element of reseach to the game which I enjoy.  Starting with the draft (the initial selection of players for your team), you can spend a bit of time learning about the players and the NFL teams that they play on.  Then, in the course of the season, you need to keep an eye on the players (to know who is injured or to know who is doing well or poorly over the past few weeks).  The good thing for Fantasy Football players is that it’s easy now to do the research.  There are hundreds of websites that are out there which package up the information so that even a complete football novice can get started quickly.  It reminds me of the time that I used to spend looking thru my Magic: The Gathering cards trying to figure out which cards would work best in my new deck.  Similarly, when choosing players for your team, you have to constantly evaluate which players will fill in holes in your team.

Third, like many of the board games that I enjoy, there is a fair element of luck or uncertainty in the game.  While it is possible for one player to have superior players “on paper”, each Fantasy Football game is decided with the actual statistics.  An ill-timed injury, an unexpected change in weather, or simply a surprising result can greatly affect the outcome of a Fantasy game.  As with many games that I love, good planning is rewarded with a better chance of winning, but it is not the only thing that determines the outcome.  Furthermore, the Fantasy players generally can “generate their own luck” as well.  On most Fantasy Football teams, you have more players on your team that you can play each week.  Therefore, one of the things you need to do each week is to decide which of your players you’ll use each week.  In gaming terms, it like choosing which cards to keep and which cards to discard from a starting hand in Agricola.  Oftentimes you end up going on a hunch and playing a player who hasn’t done well just because you think that this week is going to be their week.

Fourth, the game is a fluid game.  You have enough time over the course of a Fantasy Football season to change your strategy.  You can try to get new players to change to focus of your team.  Sometimes you can trade players with other teams.  Here, you’ll be able to put all of your negotiating skills into play.  Trying to convince another player why a particular trade will benefit both teams is often a hard thing to do.  Luckily, multiple Avalon Hill games in my past have set me up to be an adequate negotiator when I need to be!

Fifth, there are so many different variants of Fantasy Football that it’s hard to get tired of it!  I’m a big fan of boardgames with variants or alternate setups (see Age of Steam, Ticket to Ride, or Agricola) as the different forms keep me interested in the game system.  I like seeing how my experience with other forms of the game will help or hinder me in different variants.  Fantasy Football is no different as there are many different ways to play.  As I mentioned before, there are many different ways to score the game, and each different scoring system changes the ways that you approach the players.  Also, there are different methods of drafting players onto your team, and again, each system requires a totally new skill set to do well.

Finally, Fantasy Football is fun.  You don’t even have to be a football fanatic to play.  In some sense, it takes the sport of Football and breaks it down into statistics.  With the Internet based systems, you don’t even have to watch the games or even care about the football games.  You can simply watch the player statistics rack up on your computer screen and see how they turn into points.  For a non-football fan, the players are merely gaming objects with differing expected values of point scoring.  For example, this year I’m in a Fantasy Football league where over two-thirds of the players are boardgamers in Germany.  I know that some of them are interested in the NFL, but it clearly isn’t as easy to follow the sport over there.  Nevertheless, they’re excited about our Fantasy league because it’s a fun game (and they’re all kicking my butt right now).

Well, it’s Wednesday morning now, and I’ve got to get back to my fantasy football research as I have to make decisions on my players by noon!  Oh, yeah, that other thing I mentioned that I love in the Fall?  I’ll try to talk about that in the next week or two…

Until your next appointment,
The Gaming Doctor

© 2008 Dale Yu


Posted by Dale Yu on Sep 24, 2008 at 01:00 AM in ColumnistsDale Yu / 1048

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Nice article from a fellow FFL fan. I think it would be easy to say that fantasy football is like watching your favorite TV show and being able to play a really cool game around it that changed with every episode (COOL GAME IDEA), but not in a Yu-Gi-Oh! way… and even if the episode didn’t have your favorite character it still held your interest.

I have played fantasy football for 10 or so years now (Randy Moss’s rookie season - drafted as my 4th WR!) and don’t see it ever being out of my life. I blame all of my tendencies to trash talk at board games on my experience with fantasy football and I hope that people forgive me when it comes out. Though there is no forgiving that one game of Diplomacy…

Dale - sorry about your Bengals… as a Chargers fan I was sooooo with you until this week.

Posted by William Baldwin on Sep 24, 2008 at 02:06 AM | #

My wife has been playing in fantasy football leagues run by Bruce Linsey (a BGG member) since 1990, when you never heard about fantasy football in the media.  This is her 19th year.  She’s actually the big football fan in the family, not me.

I joined one of Bruce’s leagues in 1998 as protection against becoming a fantasy football widower, but Claire’s the one most likely to stay up on Monday night watching a game between two West Coast teams no one would care about other than because of fantasy football.

Posted by Eric Brosius on Sep 24, 2008 at 06:41 AM | #

I’ll watch some college ball here or there, but as with most sports, I prefer to play football (either a dynasty mode on a video game or in person) rather than watch it.

I can see the attraction to Fantasy Football but the return on time investment isn’t worth it for me.  I’ve done one or two years but I have not had great luck or skill at it.

Posted by Matt J. Carlson on Sep 24, 2008 at 07:06 AM | #

Good article Dale!  I have been playing Fantasy Football for around 14 years.  A friend and I have run a league that started out with 8 teams, peaked at 16 for about 9 or 10 years (16 is a lot of teams!!!) and has 12 now.  I love playing and for me, it adds an extra element of excitement to watching NFL games.  Some people don’t feel that way.  We have had avid NFL fans quit our league because of the way it made them behave on Sunday.  It is definitely a mess of emotions when you are rooting for a guy on your own personal favorite team (Steelers for me!  Bengals...PFFT) to fumble or get stopped.  That or you are rooting for a guy from the other team to score against your favorite team.  It can be hard on a fan!

I have tried other fantasy sports.  Baseball bores the snot out of me.  I can only stand to watch it in October and playing a whole season of it just doesn’t do it for me.  I tried fantasy NBA basketball.  It was ok and kept me interested for awhile.  Ultimately I gave it up.  I am a big basketball fan (more so than football even).  I play every week, I coach middle school and I am an avid follower of college hoops.  I think that is why I got tired of watching NBA games.  Even with the added element of watching for stats, the NBA wore on me.  Its just not basketball most of the time, it is entertainment.

Haven’t tried any of the others, although I am starting up a fantasy curling league.  Who is in?

TR

Posted by Travis Reynolds on Sep 24, 2008 at 08:28 AM | #

Travis and Matt --

if you need another Fantasy fix, here’s something else worth trying… FANTASY CONGRESS

This is actually not a joke, but a real site… I’ve been doing it for about 2 years without much success—but it’s still interesting

http://www.fantasycongress.com/

Dale

Posted by Dale Yu on Sep 24, 2008 at 08:37 AM | #

This is my 4th year playing Fantasy Football. I have 2 observations:

As other alluded to, playing Fantasy Football does change the way you watch Football. How individual players do now becomes as or more important then how teams do. (I must confess that I still don’t watch much football though.)

If you want to do well, you need to spend a little time early in the week (Tues, Wed) looking over the waver wire and considering trades. And a little more time, as Sunday gets close, setting your starters. Some people, like myself, enjoy this. Others consider it a chore. Those who consider it a chore are less likely to enjoy Fantasy Football.

Posted by Eric Clason on Sep 24, 2008 at 08:55 AM | #

I played in a Rotisserie Baseball league (the original name for the first form of fantasy sports) about 20 years ago and it was a lot of fun.  I’m still a pretty dedicated sports fan, but I followed things much closer back then; I don’t think it would be quite as much fun today, when I’d have to do more research.  It also took a good deal of time and I have less of that these days as well.

I’ve never been tempted by Fantasy Football, since I think baseball is a much better sport for this kind of competition.  For one thing, baseball is a much more statistically oriented sport and there’s a greater correlation to a player’s ability and the stats he’ll produce.  The baseball leagues also seem to be based more on trading than the football ones (at least, ours was) and that’s one of the main appeals of this (player interaction!).  But the biggest reason is the structure of the rules.  Just about every FFL I’ve checked out uses point-based scoring, where more is always better (yards gained, for example, always score the same for you regardless of the situation).  In Rotisserie, though, you get points based on your team’s ranking in the league.  So if you lead in home runs, acquiring another power hitter might do nothing for you, whereas it might be critical for one of your opponents, who’s locked in a tight race for second place in homers.  This gives the owners different objectives and makes the drafting and, particularly, the trading much more interesting.  If I were to get involved with a fantasy league again (which is doubtful), I’d want to do it in a system that worked something like that.

Posted by Larry Levy on Sep 24, 2008 at 09:59 AM | #

You’d think as a hardcore gamer and sports fan I’d love it.  But, just the opposite.  It annoys the heck out of me.  I’m trying to watch an exciting game where the home team is driving down the field in the final 2 minutes to regain the lead against a division opponent, and some joker wants to change the channel to see how Cleveland’s 3rd string punter is doing.  So maddening.

No team unity anymore, no team cheering, now it’s all about the individual.  Sad.

:: end of rant ::

Posted by Anthony Rubbo on Sep 24, 2008 at 10:37 AM | #

Larry, the rules Bruce Linsey uses address your scoring concerns.  You can view his scoring rules at http://www.gonzosports.com

Posted by Eric Brosius on Sep 24, 2008 at 09:48 PM | #

How about just going out, getting the boys together and *playing* some football? 

Nothing is better than that…

Ryan B.

P.S.  Although admittedly, it is becoming next to impossible to find a group of 20-30 yr old somethings who want an old 39 year old quarterback to man their pick-up league roster… (sigh)

Posted by Ryan B. on Sep 25, 2008 at 11:16 PM | #

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